{"id":4236,"date":"2015-10-05T16:15:16","date_gmt":"2015-10-05T16:15:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/marmoset-journal.flywheelsites.com\/2015-9-1gu4sfv2rxx6527y4cjkylubkoaxr5\/"},"modified":"2021-03-25T21:35:01","modified_gmt":"2021-03-26T04:35:01","slug":"field-notes-interview-61-ron-dawson-filmmaker-podcaster","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/field-notes-interview-61-ron-dawson-filmmaker-podcaster\/","title":{"rendered":"Here&amp;#x27;s How Podcasts Can Help Filmmaking: An interview with Ron Dawson of Dare Dreamer Media"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"\n          image-block-outer-wrapper\n          layout-caption-hidden\n          design-layout-inline\n        \" data-test=\"image-block-inline-outer-wrapper\"><\/p>\n<figure class=\"\n              sqs-block-image-figure\n              intrinsic\n            \" style=\"max-width: 100%;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"\n                image-block-wrapper\n                has-aspect-ratio\n              \" style=\"padding-bottom: 75.0%;\" data-animation-role=\"image\" data-animation-override=\"\"><br \/>\n<noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/427_image-asset.jpg\" alt=\"\"><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/427_image-asset.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-image=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/427_image-asset.jpg\" data-image-dimensions=\"1024x768\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"560b0ca3e4b014538d685bb8\" data-type=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<h1>Field Notes Interview #61: Ron Dawson, Filmmaker + Podcaster<\/h1>\n<div class=\"\n          image-block-outer-wrapper\n          layout-caption-hidden\n          design-layout-inline\n        \" data-test=\"image-block-inline-outer-wrapper\"><\/p>\n<figure class=\"\n              sqs-block-image-figure\n              intrinsic\n            \" style=\"max-width: 262.0px;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"\n                image-block-wrapper\n                has-aspect-ratio\n              \" style=\"padding-bottom: 100.0%;\" data-animation-role=\"image\" data-animation-override=\"\"><br \/>\n<noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/428_image-asset.jpg\" alt=\"\"><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/428_image-asset.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-image=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/428_image-asset.jpg\" data-image-dimensions=\"262x262\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"5612ad43e4b00b12a242321b\" data-type=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p id=\"yui_3_17_2_2_1444064536639_15053\">It&#8217;s official, podcasts are in.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past ten years podcasts have ascended to become a major medium in how we communicate and tell stories. For filmmakers like <strong>Ron Dawson<\/strong>, this has shifted how they approach filmmaking as well.<\/p>\n<p id=\"yui_3_17_2_2_1444064536639_12603\">When you ask Dawson what he does, he&#8217;ll simply tell you that he&#8217;s trying &#8220;to make the world a better place.&#8221; In less extreme terms, he&#8217;s a storyteller, filmmaker and now&#8230;podcaster. He runs a video production company out of Seattle, WA called <a href=\"http:\/\/daredreamer.net\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-cke-saved-href=\"http:\/\/daredreamer.net\">Dare Dreamer Media<\/a> and has produced work for clients like Apple, Adobe, kodak and Nielsen. His trajectory doesn&#8217;t stop there, being driven to produce cause-related and inspirational work, he hosts two podcasts: <a href=\"http:\/\/daredreamer.fm\/shows\/solocreative\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-cke-saved-href=\"http:\/\/daredreamer.fm\/shows\/solocreative\/\">The Solo Creative<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/daredreamer.fm\/shows\/radiofilmschool\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-cke-saved-href=\"http:\/\/daredreamer.fm\/shows\/radiofilmschool\/\">Radio Film School<\/a>. Both dive into the creative process of filmmakers through interviews. Through exploring this burgeoning medium, he&#8217;s providing the first &#8220;radio&#8221; documentary series about filmmaking.<\/p>\n<p><strong>M: Why film? What compelled you to be a filmmaker and film in general?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RD:<\/strong> I originally took film courses because I wanted to make a movie about a funny experience I had while at UC Berkeley (well, it wasn\u2019t so funny at the time.) In the process of learning about filmmaking, I would say that \u201cfilmmaking discovered me.\u201d I quickly fell in love with it. That was back in 1992 \u2014 I\u2019m sure most of your readers were probably playing with their Gi Joe\u2019s with the Kung Fu grip during that time.<\/p>\n<p>But in a recent episode of Radio Film School, I propose the idea that the seed for me to become a filmmaker was planted back when I was just 7 years old and my dad (who was divorced from my mom at the time), gave me an 8mm motion picture film camera. I used that camera to make my very first \u201cmovie.\u201d It was a time-traveling crime caper starring my hapless little brother, shot on location at Disneyland and Universal Studios (back when there was only one of each. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<figure class=\"\n              sqs-block-image-figure\n              intrinsic\n            \" style=\"max-width: 100%;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"\n                image-block-wrapper\n                has-aspect-ratio\n              \" style=\"padding-bottom: 51.44694519042969%;\" data-animation-role=\"image\" data-animation-override=\"\"><br \/>\n<noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/144_image-asset.png\" alt=\"\"><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/144_image-asset.png\" alt=\"\" data-image=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/144_image-asset.png\" data-image-dimensions=\"622x320\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"560ac807e4b053ff51a53128\" data-type=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p><strong>M: What&#8217;s the most rewarding and frustrating part about being a filmmaker?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RD: <\/strong>When I started in this business I did weddings (from 2002 to 2007). My original plan was to shoot weddings until I could make \u201creal\u201d movies. But then I made a 7 minute <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marmosetmusic.com\/music-licensing\/reel-license\">highlight reel<\/a> for my first wedding client and showed it to them in my living room. During those 7 minutes they laughed and they cried. Seeing my art affect a couple like that had a profound effect on me.<\/p>\n<p>By far the most rewarding part of filmmaking is telling a story that genuinely moves people. I would even say the most rewarding part is telling a story that genuinely moves ME. When I make a film that I personally want to see over and over, I know I\u2019ve made something special; regardless of the number of views it gets.\u00a0The most frustrating part is easy: not being able to EVER get on the screen exactly what I have in my head. But I\u2019m sure I\u2019m the only one who deals with that problem.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"\n              sqs-block-image-figure\n              intrinsic\n            \" style=\"max-width: 100%;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"\n                image-block-wrapper\n                has-aspect-ratio\n              \" style=\"padding-bottom: 66.12903594970703%;\" data-animation-role=\"image\" data-animation-override=\"\"><br \/>\n<noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/145_image-asset.png\" alt=\"\"><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/145_image-asset.png\" alt=\"\" data-image=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/145_image-asset.png\" data-image-dimensions=\"620x410\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"560ac90ee4b0a8188e8784e7\" data-type=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p><strong>M: What was the inspiration for Radio Film School?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RD: <\/strong>How much time do you have? Just kidding. So, earlier this year my wife and I decided to start moving the business to be more of a content production company. I wanted to create streams of income that were more passive, i.e. I didn\u2019t have to pick up a camera or edit a video to make a buck. I had previously produced two relatively successful podcasts, and I was an avid blogger. So she suggested I do that again and see if this time we couldn\u2019t make them more of a core business unit as opposed to just passion projects.<\/p>\n<p>In December of 2013 I had ended my last podcast, Crossing the 180: The Filmmakers Podcast that Breaks the Rules. It wasn\u2019t a key revenue generator and as a passion project, I wasn\u2019t having fun with it anymore. If I were to get into podcasting again, I knew it had to be different. Podcasting has exploded, and it only continues to grow. And there are already so many great podcasts about filmmaking. I didn\u2019t want to add to the noise, so I knew my \u201csignal\u201d had to be strong.<\/p>\n<p>The original plan was for the show to be a talk-show style podcast with me and my two good friends, JD and Yolanda Cochran. JD is an indie filmmaker and his wife Yolanda had been an executive in Hollywood for years. Then she got a consulting gig at Netflix, and we all thought it wouldn\u2019t be prudent for her to be on a talk show about filmmaking as she was just starting out. So I wanted to change the format, mainly because I was relying on the specific dynamic of the three of us as part of the show.<\/p>\n<p>I honestly don\u2019t remember the spark that inspired the audio documentary idea. I\u2019ve been a fan of This American Life for years. So maybe there was some subconscious voice. It actually frustrates me that I can\u2019t pinpoint the exact moment. But I was listening to a lot of podcasts about podcasting, and one of them has a segment where they recommend other podcasts. One of the hosts recommended an episode of <a href=\"http:\/\/99percentinvisible.org\/\">99% Invisible<\/a>, the show about design by Roman Mars. I was instantly hooked. It is hands down my favorite podcast now and one I know Marmoset blog readers would totally dig.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"\n              sqs-block-image-figure\n              intrinsic\n            \" style=\"max-width: 100%;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"\n                image-block-wrapper\n                has-aspect-ratio\n              \" style=\"padding-bottom: 99.07621002197266%;\" data-animation-role=\"image\" data-animation-override=\"\"><br \/>\n<noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/ScreenShot2015-09-29at10.29.05AM.png\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2015-09-29 at 10.29.05 AM.png\"><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/ScreenShot2015-09-29at10.29.05AM.png\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2015-09-29 at 10.29.05 AM.png\" data-image=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/ScreenShot2015-09-29at10.29.05AM.png\" data-image-dimensions=\"620x615\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"560aca8ee4b003b5f309b39e\" data-type=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<figure class=\"\n              sqs-block-image-figure\n              intrinsic\n            \" style=\"max-width: 100%;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"\n                image-block-wrapper\n                has-aspect-ratio\n              \" style=\"padding-bottom: 100.0%;\" data-animation-role=\"image\" data-animation-override=\"\"><br \/>\n<noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/ScreenShot2015-09-29at10.27.37AM.png\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2015-09-29 at 10.27.37 AM.png\"><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/ScreenShot2015-09-29at10.27.37AM.png\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2015-09-29 at 10.27.37 AM.png\" data-image=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/ScreenShot2015-09-29at10.27.37AM.png\" data-image-dimensions=\"302x303\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"560aca28e4b090254270a0c5\" data-type=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>I describe Radio Film School \u201cThis American Life for filmmakers.\u201d But in reality, 99% Invisible is a closer inspiration in terms of format and style.<\/p>\n<p><strong>M: Why did you choose the format of podcast?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As much as I love filmmaking, ultimately, the viewer has to stop and watch a film. Podcasting allows me to enter the world of my listeners (or rather, they enter mine), without having them interrupt whatever they\u2019re already doing. That\u2019s special. And big companies are realizing that. Just look at the modifications being added to new car models, giving drivers the ability to stream and play shows from their mobile devices (and eventually, through the car itself.)<\/p>\n<p>What I particularly like about the storytelling format I use for the show is that it\u2019s like editing video. That same high I get when I tell a story via video that makes me want to watch over and over again is what I get to go through every week with Radio Film School. I get giddy and pumped when I hit on an idea that is some complicated and intricate collection of stories that seem disparate at first, but somehow how bob and weave, twist and turn and end up at the moral I want to tell as it relates to filmmaking, storytelling or artistry.<\/p>\n<p><strong>M: How do podcasts affect storytelling?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s an interesting question. I think podcasts actually take storytelling back to its basest form. The original stories were audio based. \u00a0They were verbal traditions handed down through the millennia. So in some ways, it\u2019s simple. Just do what comes natural to humans. We tell stories.<\/p>\n<p>But \u201csimple\u201d does not necessarily mean \u201ceasy.\u201d Some of the most \u201csimple\u201d looking films are actually quite difficult to pull off. In some ways, podcasting is the same.<\/p>\n<p>There are times when I\u2019ve written the first draft of a script for a show and I\u2019m like, \u201cOMG. This sounds freaking boring. I\u2019m just babbling! I\u2019m going to put the audience to sleep.\u201d I don\u2019t have pretty pictures to keep their attention. So I have to devise ways to elevate the story to bard-like levels. I actually have to switch my brain to a whole new mode. The best way to describe it is that I go from \u201ccourtroom clerk\u201d to stand-up comedian. I act as if I\u2019m on stage telling the story to an audience. How do I stand? What colloquialisms to I use? Do I laugh? What\u2019s my tone? What are my facial expressions? I bring all of that into play when finalizing a script for the show.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"\n              sqs-block-image-figure\n              intrinsic\n            \" style=\"max-width: 100%;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"\n                image-block-wrapper\n                has-aspect-ratio\n              \" style=\"padding-bottom: 99.19224548339844%;\" data-animation-role=\"image\" data-animation-override=\"\"><br \/>\n<noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/146_image-asset.png\" alt=\"\"><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" src=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/146_image-asset.png\" alt=\"\" data-image=\"https:\/\/marmosetmusic.com\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/146_image-asset.png\" data-image-dimensions=\"619x614\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"560acb0de4b0ce89ae1ee79c\" data-type=\"image\" \/><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>In the Sept 29th episode, \u201cS.O.S. Atlantis\u201d, there\u2019s a part of the show where I start cracking up and I have to compose myself. I could have easily edited it out. But then I thought, \u201cHeck no. Keep it. It\u2019s real. It\u2019s me.\u201d In some weird way, it\u2019s sort of like an audio version of \u201cbreaking the 4th wall.\u201d When I relate to the audience in a way that is beyond the words on the page. Like catching a kid with his hand in the cookie jar. Technically, you\u2019re not supposed to hear it. But I let it ride.<\/p>\n<p>I did something similar in Part 2 of my \u201cOf Fathers &amp; Filmmaking\u201d episode wherein during a conversation with Patrick Moreau about the deaths of our mothers, I break down and start crying (we\u2019re not talking an ugly cry or anything. But it\u2019s apparent I\u2019m emotionally broken). I want to make those authentic connections with my audience so they feel like I\u2019m there, with them, telling a story.\u00a0I\u2019m still finding my \u201cflow,\u201d but I\u2019m getting there. The trick is to write a script that when read, sounds like I\u2019m just talking as opposed to reading a blog post.<\/p>\n<p><strong>M: How do you feel music has a role in film?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s like asking, \u201cHow do you feel blood has a role in being alive?\u201d Okay, maybe that\u2019s a little hyperbolic. There are plenty of examples of films that have no soundtrack that are great. But for me, music is essential in the filmmaking process.<\/p>\n<p>As filmmakers, we all know the power music has, so you don\u2019t need me to remind you. We\u2019ve all seen the examples of how music can change the feel of a film. (The romantic comedy \u201ctrailer\u201d for \u201cThe Shining\u201d is a perfect example.)<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KmkVWuP_sO0?wmode=opaque&amp;enablejsapi=1\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><br \/>\n<\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>But I will say this&#8211;that when you pick music, pick music that becomes as much of the storyteller as the actual words or visuals. I never pick just \u201cany ol\u2019 song.\u201d I\u2019m always looking for something that, if there were no words at all, the song I picked could convey the message on its own\u2014whether or not the song has lyrics.<\/p>\n<p><strong>M: How do you feel music is misused in film?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RD:<\/strong> Whenever the music is overbearing. Too melodramatic. Too loud. Or when lyrics fight with the words of the people in the film. These are all examples. It\u2019s really striking a balance between finding music that can tell a story on its own, vs. music that wants to take over the stage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>M: What are the essential ingredients in a good song for a podcast?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RD: <\/strong>Each podcast is different. You have to start with knowing what your show is about. Many podcasts have no music. Then there are shows like This American Life and 99% Invisible where music plays a huge role. Know the personality of your show, and find music that fits it. Here are some general things to keep in mind:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Lyrics: does the song have lyrics that support the stories in the show? (This American Life does this expertly).<\/li>\n<li>Pacing: does a song have good movement or chorus breaks that can be timed well with the words of your show?<\/li>\n<li>Complexity: do you just need the same 8 bars repeated over and over for a show about the stock market, or do you need a singer-songwriter ballad to accompany a story about unrequited love?<\/li>\n<li>Length: will you need to loop part of the song to make it fit, or is it just right?<\/li>\n<li>License: and naturally, do you have the legal right to use the song in your show? If your podcast has any kind of commercial aspect (e.g. sponsors, pitches for your business, etc.) your song needs to be cleared for commercial use.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>M: What&#8217;s the most recent album you&#8217;ve listened to?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RD: <\/strong>This may sound weird, but I don\u2019t really listen to \u201calbums.\u201d I hope that\u2019s not sacrilege to you. \ud83d\ude42 So, the best answer to that question is really my \u201cSoundtracks\u201d playlist on Spotify. It includes songs from Man of Steel, the original Superman, The Piano, Crouching Tiger HIdden Dragon, The Mission, Lord of the Rings, LOST, Oblivion, Blade Runner, Good Will Hunting, and Gravity.<\/p>\n<p><strong>M: What makes a good story?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RD: <\/strong>I think the best stories are ones that transcend whatever topic they\u2019re talking about. Where they\u2019re about more than what the person is saying. When they hit on some universal truth. Or if they touch some aspect of the human condition that moves you emotionally. Whether to laugh, cry, or be filled with awe.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"SoundandSEA TV 001: &quot;Unusual Places&quot;\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/104928786?wmode=opaque&amp;api=1\" width=\"1920\" height=\"818\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>A good story stops time. A good story captures your attention within moments&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201dCall me Ishmael.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cIt was the best of times, it was the worst of times.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cA long time ago in a galaxy far, far away\u2026.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I was 7 years old, I learned my parents were getting a divorce. So starts my journey as as a filmmaker.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>M: What&#8217;s coming up on the horizon for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RD:<\/strong> The most immediate milestone coming up for me is the post production of a personal project I started back in January of 2011. It\u2019s called \u201cMixed in America: Personal Stories about Race Relations &amp; Identity in the Proverbial Melting Pot.\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/other-mixed-race-in-america\/id1229625388?mt=2\">mixedinamerica.tv<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re stories about biracial people.This first film in what I hope will be a series is about my daughter, and what it was like for her being \u201cblack\u201d and raised by a white mom. (My wife was a single mom for 7 years before I entered the picture).<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Mixed in America Ep. 1 - Teaser for &quot;Little Mixed Sunshine&quot;\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/18612842?wmode=opaque&amp;api=1\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>On the show, I will tell the story about how the film came to be and why it took so long to get done. I\u2019m sure many filmmakers out there will be able to relate. And as I mentioned above, Mixed in America is more than just a cinematic look a race relations. It\u2019s about wanting to fit in. Having a desire to belong. To be loved. We all want to belong and beloved. Whether we\u2019re white, black, or somewhere in between.<\/p>\n<p>As far as Radio Film School is concerned, I\u2019m really jazzed about episodes we have on the horizon. The main show is exploring the theme of \u201cfinding your voice as a filmmaking and developing a signature style.\u201d I have a lot of great interviews \u201cin the can\u201d already from such filmmakers as Phil Bloom, Ryan Booth, Ryan Connolly, Dana Saint and Dan Riordan of Gnarly Bay, Kevin Shahinian, Brett Culp, photographer Doug Menuez, the executive director of the Seattle Film Institute, and many more.<\/p>\n<p>The main show is biweekly, so during the interim weeks I have shorter episodes called \u201cShort Ends.\u201d They\u2019re mini-radio docs about all things cinema, but topics that don\u2019t necessarily fit in the context of the main show. <a href=\"http:\/\/daredreamer.fm\/what-the-hell-are-you\/\">We\u2019ve done a hilarious story about what filmmakers call themselves<\/a> (e.g. filmmaker vs cinematographer vs. videographers, etc.). We did a piece about <a href=\"http:\/\/daredreamer.fm\/shut-up-and-direct\/\">directing actors<\/a>. 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